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tmjohns18 wrote:FA Bidding following draft.
Would guys be up for this? I think this was somewhat talked about last year, but want to know if people would be in favor of a FA bidding (2-3 Weeks of Preseason), over the first-come first-serve FA frenzy following a draft.
Reason being, not all FA's will accept bids and there's always a few half-decent players that go undrafted that I think everyone should have a fair shot at.
If the draft goes down Sunday night, this could be fit in during the first few weeks of Preseason due to the slightly longer Preseason period (assuming 24 hour advances first week or two extended due to Christmas). Waiver wire rules would still apply for any cuts during the FA Bidding, but all remaining players in pool would be up for bidding (excluding scrubs teams may pick up to meet roster requirements week 1).
Thoughts?
Also hawk, i've said this in chat before but don't know if you saw it. Maybe making a new thread highlighting any rules changes or offseason changes may be a good idea (such as waiver wire resign change). We are closing in rapidly on the offseason and any changes you've made may have gone unknown. Biggest one would be the no resigning of guys claimed off the waiver wire, guys me not have seen the post in the discussion thread and in result may sign large contracts prior to learning about the change. Same with glitch teams and outlining the circumstances they are under.
No thoughts ... ?
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I'm for FA bidding
jhawk886- Posts : 2724
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Ill finalize things later tonight. On my way to see the hobbit right now.
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tmjohns18 wrote:tmjohns18 wrote:FA Bidding following draft.
Would guys be up for this? I think this was somewhat talked about last year, but want to know if people would be in favor of a FA bidding (2-3 Weeks of Preseason), over the first-come first-serve FA frenzy following a draft.
Reason being, not all FA's will accept bids and there's always a few half-decent players that go undrafted that I think everyone should have a fair shot at.
If the draft goes down Sunday night, this could be fit in during the first few weeks of Preseason due to the slightly longer Preseason period (assuming 24 hour advances first week or two extended due to Christmas). Waiver wire rules would still apply for any cuts during the FA Bidding, but all remaining players in pool would be up for bidding (excluding scrubs teams may pick up to meet roster requirements week 1).
Thoughts?
Also hawk, i've said this in chat before but don't know if you saw it. Maybe making a new thread highlighting any rules changes or offseason changes may be a good idea (such as waiver wire resign change). We are closing in rapidly on the offseason and any changes you've made may have gone unknown. Biggest one would be the no resigning of guys claimed off the waiver wire, guys me not have seen the post in the discussion thread and in result may sign large contracts prior to learning about the change. Same with glitch teams and outlining the circumstances they are under.
No thoughts ... ?
I agree 100% TJ. There were some pretty bad ass undrafted free agents. I got a few of them, but I know there were more. I definitely believe there should be FA bidding after the draft. I also agree with you TJ on the rules changes thread. It'll make it much easier to keep up with rule changes. If you don't check the discussion thread for a few days, any post about rule changes, could be missed. It also would make incidents like when hawk edited your thread on accident less likely to happen. Good points TJ. I'm surprised.
TJ- Posts : 1309
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I can't tell if you're actually agreeing with me or you're faking. It's the internet after all.
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Currently in Resignings (Further schedule):
Friday Night 7 p.m. ET: Advance to FA round 1
Saturday Afternoon 3 p.m. ET: Advance to FA round 2
Sunday Morning 11 a.m. ET: Advance to FA round 3
Sunday Night 8 p.m. ET: End FA
Sunday Night 9 p.m. ET: Draft
Friday Night 7 p.m. ET: Advance to FA round 1
Saturday Afternoon 3 p.m. ET: Advance to FA round 2
Sunday Morning 11 a.m. ET: Advance to FA round 3
Sunday Night 8 p.m. ET: End FA
Sunday Night 9 p.m. ET: Draft
jhawk886- Posts : 2724
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As I've already stated last year, I just don't see how it's feasible to do a FA bidding period during the preseason without a transaction log to keep people honest.tmjohns18 wrote:FA Bidding following draft.
Would guys be up for this? I think this was somewhat talked about last year, but want to know if people would be in favor of a FA bidding (2-3 Weeks of Preseason), over the first-come first-serve FA frenzy following a draft.
Reason being, not all FA's will accept bids and there's always a few half-decent players that go undrafted that I think everyone should have a fair shot at.
If the draft goes down Sunday night, this could be fit in during the first few weeks of Preseason due to the slightly longer Preseason period (assuming 24 hour advances first week or two extended due to Christmas). Waiver wire rules would still apply for any cuts during the FA Bidding, but all remaining players in pool would be up for bidding (excluding scrubs teams may pick up to meet roster requirements week 1).
Thoughts?
Also hawk, i've said this in chat before but don't know if you saw it. Maybe making a new thread highlighting any rules changes or offseason changes may be a good idea (such as waiver wire resign change). We are closing in rapidly on the offseason and any changes you've made may have gone unknown. Biggest one would be the no resigning of guys claimed off the waiver wire, guys me not have seen the post in the discussion thread and in result may sign large contracts prior to learning about the change. Same with glitch teams and outlining the circumstances they are under.
I'll make a thread outlining rule changes tomorrow. If I leave any out, please let me know so I can make sure it's correct.
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jhawk886 wrote:As I've already stated last year, I just don't see how it's feasible to do a FA bidding period during the preseason without a transaction log to keep people honest.tmjohns18 wrote:FA Bidding following draft.
Would guys be up for this? I think this was somewhat talked about last year, but want to know if people would be in favor of a FA bidding (2-3 Weeks of Preseason), over the first-come first-serve FA frenzy following a draft.
Reason being, not all FA's will accept bids and there's always a few half-decent players that go undrafted that I think everyone should have a fair shot at.
If the draft goes down Sunday night, this could be fit in during the first few weeks of Preseason due to the slightly longer Preseason period (assuming 24 hour advances first week or two extended due to Christmas). Waiver wire rules would still apply for any cuts during the FA Bidding, but all remaining players in pool would be up for bidding (excluding scrubs teams may pick up to meet roster requirements week 1).
Thoughts?
Also hawk, i've said this in chat before but don't know if you saw it. Maybe making a new thread highlighting any rules changes or offseason changes may be a good idea (such as waiver wire resign change). We are closing in rapidly on the offseason and any changes you've made may have gone unknown. Biggest one would be the no resigning of guys claimed off the waiver wire, guys me not have seen the post in the discussion thread and in result may sign large contracts prior to learning about the change. Same with glitch teams and outlining the circumstances they are under.
I'll make a thread outlining rule changes tomorrow. If I leave any out, please let me know so I can make sure it's correct.
Yeah hawk, I hadn't thought about the fact that there's no transaction log. Damn you ea!!!!
OrganizedChaos- Posts : 368
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Do I post who I have resigned?
splff3000- Posts : 6181
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Naw, not for this. You only post when you sign someone from the waiver wire/ free agency.
TJ- Posts : 1309
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Screw what i said earlier. I have easy solution that took me a minute to think of.
We have no log already but we make do. Any FA signs out of the pool are required to be posted. So... so.. so.
So here's what I propose to make things easy hawk. Prior to the draft I will record the contract screen for each team, sort it by years and show the 1 year players. I will do this in the time between FA ending and Draft beginning, so all players shown are already signed after the bidding. Following draft we can open up the FA bidding. Once it has begun, in the few days it is going on I will check the 1 year players. If any new guys have shown up, you have my blessing to release the wrath of the commish upon them.
That fix the "trust" issue for guys?
We have no log already but we make do. Any FA signs out of the pool are required to be posted. So... so.. so.
So here's what I propose to make things easy hawk. Prior to the draft I will record the contract screen for each team, sort it by years and show the 1 year players. I will do this in the time between FA ending and Draft beginning, so all players shown are already signed after the bidding. Following draft we can open up the FA bidding. Once it has begun, in the few days it is going on I will check the 1 year players. If any new guys have shown up, you have my blessing to release the wrath of the commish upon them.
That fix the "trust" issue for guys?
TJ- Posts : 1309
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Simple. Sort by Length (so 1 year deals are atop). Number of 1 year deals should reduce after resigning and FA. Record 1 year players on rosters entering draft. Recheck 1 year players near end of FA bidding to make sure of no wise guys.
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Players that are off-limits in FA:
HB - Maurice Jones-Drew
DT - Geno Atkins
LE - Carlos Dunlap
LT - Anthony Collins
HB - Maurice Jones-Drew
DT - Geno Atkins
LE - Carlos Dunlap
LT - Anthony Collins
Preacher_jack- Posts : 67
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how were you not able to re-sign dunlap and atkins if they were already on your team? I know about the trading for players with one year left on their deal problem, but haven't heard of players that were not traded for not showing up either.
Kingofda334- Posts : 451
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might be the resign glitch thing
Shooter- Posts : 290
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*UPDATED*
Players that are off-limits for the whole FA period:
HB - Maurice Jones-Drew
DT - Geno Atkins
LE - Carlos Dunlap
LT - Anthony Collins
Players that are off-limits until Week 3 of FA:
CB - Nate Clements
CB - Jason Allen
Players that are off-limits for the whole FA period:
HB - Maurice Jones-Drew
DT - Geno Atkins
LE - Carlos Dunlap
LT - Anthony Collins
Players that are off-limits until Week 3 of FA:
CB - Nate Clements
CB - Jason Allen
Last edited by Shooter on Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:55 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Nate Clements is all mine
TJ- Posts : 1309
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Why are those players off limits for the whole FA?
And did you tag a player?
And did you tag a player?
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hawk is chris houston mine since i told u i wasnt able to resign him?
jhawk886- Posts : 2724
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Due to resolving glitch complications, these players will be off-limits during the following periods for free agency.
Players that are off-limits for the whole FA period:
HB - Maurice Jones-Drew
DT - Geno Atkins
LE - Carlos Dunlap
LT - Anthony Collins
Players that are off-limits until Week 3 of FA:
CB - Nate Clements
CB - Jason Allen
CB - Chris Houston
Players that are off-limits for the whole FA period:
HB - Maurice Jones-Drew
DT - Geno Atkins
LE - Carlos Dunlap
LT - Anthony Collins
Players that are off-limits until Week 3 of FA:
CB - Nate Clements
CB - Jason Allen
CB - Chris Houston
TJ- Posts : 1309
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Why? Is it because we had to wait till week 17 for no reason?
OrganizedChaos- Posts : 368
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Hawk what's the penalty If I sign one of those guys?
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I'm wondering why shooter has players that are off limits for the entirety of the FA period. We all had the glitch, but none of us were guaranteed to get players resigned, for cheap at that. I understand making some players off limits for 1 or 2 weeks, but not for the entirety of the FA period. If other users could bid on shooters players in week 3, he would be forced to give them at least a fair offer to get those guys signed before other users starting making offers. Now tho, he can just lowball the hell out of those guys and maybe sign a few to long term low salary contracts with no consequences. He can lowball in week 1 then raise a lil higher in week 2 if they haven't signed then make a real offer in week 3 if they haven't signed. He's pretty much guaranteed to get these 4 guys back unless he's just a complete fucktard. If a player hasn't signed with him by week 3 of FA then that should be considered a rejected offer and he should be fair game for everyone. Like I said, no one else were guaranteed to be able sign their players. Taint rigGht McGee.
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it should be by week two if mfer reject him he's up for grabs he gets same treatment as in ccm . if mfer don't like your offer he don't fuck with you. it happens during the season. i get that there was a glitch and shit but under no means it should become special circumstances for entire offseason.
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