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    Post by splff3000 Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:25 pm

    jhawk886 wrote:Lol this is some funny shit.

    Honestly, there isn't much "checking" to do after somebody does them. The biggest things you "check" are that everyone has 6 home/away games, plays the same number of users (4 in our case), and now check to make sure everybody plays 8 conference games.

    Realistically, there isn't really anything that's going to change too much once their done because that will just fuck them up more than they already are. If you found a major issue, you would have to go back and really redo the entire thing, screwing things up majorly.

    One of the biggest issues is that we already fuck up CPU teams' schedules by making ours, this is inevitable. Some people don't give a shit about the CPU team schedules. I, for one, do. If we screw them up too much we'll end up with CPU teams playing only 10 games. This may not be an issue to some people but it will be when that team goes 9-1 and steals a BCS spot from a user.

    Another CPU team scheduling issue we face is that if we aren't careful we'll take away a rivalry game from those teams. I just hate doing that in general, but there is a practical purpose in it now especially since we have the coaching carousel and coaches can get fired for not beating their rival. We really should try to disturb the CPU's schedules as least as possible.

    That in a nutshell is the main difference between Urban and I doing the schedules. I go a lot more in depth with it, trying to wreck the least amount of havoc on other teams' schedules and pay closer attention to detail.

    I have a spreadsheet system that assists me in the process and allows me to ensure that all users play their rivals and generally have their user games spread out with hopefully none or only a few week 1 user games. I always give guys week 1 games and nobody ever has a back-to-back bye.

    Most of those things were things we saw this past season in Rivals. They aren't horrible, inexcusable things so it's not a huge deal. It's just that's the trade-off you have between getting them done in an hour to an hour and a half, or them getting done in four hours or so.

    As far as this last season goes and the issues we faced, I wouldn't have been able to "solve" any of them. The issue with Joker and Clark probably would have been avoided by having that game be played later in the season and I probably would have placed that game later but that's not guaranteed. The issue with Ho and not playing I don't know if I could've solved or not; it depends on the ability to change conference games which I think isn't possible season 1. I would've caught the problem and we could have started over to try and fix it but I can't promise I could've solved it.

    At the end of the day, Urban did a decent job on Rivals schedules last season. If you want him to do the schedules then that's fine, it saves me a shit ton of time and frustration. I think the product I turn out is superior in quality but that's for you guys to decide. Whatever you wanna do, I'm cool with, my Hawks are gonna play much better this year regardless of the schedule.

    I've seen hawks spreadsheet and it's very thorough. In all honesty, there is no way you can do as good a job as Hawk without that spreadsheet. It takes a long time, but you know you're gonna get the best possible schedule.

    I hate to say it, but Urbs is not so thorough lol. He does a decent job most times, but for the convenience of having a schedule quicker and being able to start sooner, you MAY have a few problems.

    I'm not saying the problems in Rivals were Urbs fault. I'm not saying that at all. As glitchy as this game is, it might have shown the right schedule then changed when we advanced. That actually has been a glitch before. I'm just saying, you guys are gonna have to decide whether you want thorough, but time consuming or not so thorough, but less time consuming. I'm kinda a perfectionist with shit like that so I always prefer thorough no matter how much time it takes. Well you guys know that. Yall know how long I take during recruiting lol.
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    Post by splff3000 Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:28 pm

    KidIcarus27 wrote:
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    Btw I ran into jax so I won't be starting them until this afternoon when I get back unless you guys want to wait on hawk.

    Did he rip your arms off or something?

    lol, I think he meant he went to Jacksonville.
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:29 pm

    yea hawk ima let you them because i took a long at the schedules last night and its going to take some time to get shit right because in know atleast 1 person got 8 weeks before conf game start and past that point its not as flexable and besides i havent did schedules in a long time and you been doing them more often so i figure you would do a better job than me
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:33 pm

    yea splff the way i feel about EA right now i rather somebody take they time and make the shit good as possible. And i feel that if it was urb changing something that caused rivals to glitch EA should have tested all this stuff they sold us before people pay $60 for a headache. Madden better be 10x better than this shit or EA HQ going to get burned to the ground lol
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    Post by jhawk886 Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:46 pm

    The spreadsheet really is key. It tells you exactly what you need. I'll send it to you urbs if you want it for Rivals.
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    Post by jhawk886 Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:20 pm

    Yung, I have an hour right now before I have to head to my meeting if you want me to start on the schedules. Otherwise I won't be able to do them until after that, probably around 9 PM CT or so.

    If you want Urban to do them instead that's fine, just thought I'd let you know.
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    Post by KidIcarus27 Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:26 pm

    don't bother me either way... i'd kinda like to ply a game since BOB seems to have come to a screeching fucking halt... but i would also like the scheds to be as good as we can get them..
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:29 pm

    yea hawk you can start on them
    ima pm you my info
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:20 pm

    aye hawk i gave you the wrong password my bad check your box
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    Post by KidIcarus27 Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:51 pm

    So hawk isn't even gonna start until 10 est or so right?
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:58 pm

    yea kid thats what he said so i know we going to advance to the regular season tonight but i dont know if ppl will be up
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    Post by KidIcarus27 Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:02 pm

    yungjswag89 wrote:yea kid thats what he said so i know we going to advance to the regular season tonight but i dont know if ppl will be up
    I won't be.. lol .. jekyll might be , but ill have to do line tomorrow night
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    Post by jhawk886 Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:54 pm

    Alright guys I'm home and gonna start on the schedules. I didn't end up going to the meeting as I stopped by the office real quick to grab the agendas and the fucking upstairs apartment drainage line had burst and the office was flooding. So I've been wading through and showering in shit so don't fucking piss me off tonight lol. Yung, I'm getting on your name so don't log on bro. Text me if you have to get on for something, 785-213-2871.

    BTW, give me a list of user games we need to maintain for season 2. Other than my own, I'm not sure who played who out of conference and if anyone challenged anybody else to a game this season.

    Let me know guys. Season starts tonight.
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    Post by jhawk886 Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:16 pm

    By the way how many user games we rolling with this year? If we wanted to do 4, we now have chugg alone in the PAC-12 with 9 conference games. He can only play 3 users. So how we want to do this? I kind of need to know before I proceed too much farther.
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    Post by getonmylevelho Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:17 pm

    i need a home and home game 2 against jared and stop. can't remember who was home in those matchups though..u guys remember?
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:18 pm

    well what i want to do is you choose the user games this season then next season we will flip it.
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:20 pm

    just give everybody 3 games then and give them a ranked opponet that is a cpu that will be a good sub for the ppl that aint in a conf with alot of conf games
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    Post by jhawk886 Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:22 pm

    yungjswag89 wrote:just give everybody 3 games then and give them a ranked opponet that is a cpu that will be a good sub for the ppl that aint in a conf with alot of conf games
    K. And yeah Zeph's schedule is gonna be messed lol. He has 7 conference games all from week 9-15. That's just crazy.

    And yeah, Urban and Ho were right, you can't change conference games. I thought I heard they made that flexible this year but I guess I misunderstood.

    Jared said you were home last year Ho so I'll make him home this year.
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:34 pm

    yea 2 ppl was like that last season its wacky.
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    Post by jhawk886 Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:26 am

    I've basically got the user games figured out. Sorry I couldn't keep everyone's home and homes intact from last season due to the turnover in coaches and switching teams/conferences. We should have better luck with that next year though as I've got it all laid out on my sheet.

    We are running into one issue. We have one extra game needed for a user. I'm thinking about giving it to Dink as he won the NC and I feel that's fair. However, I'll leave that up to yung as to who gets the extra game to give everyone 3 users and 1 person 4 users, If anyone wants to volunteer let me know.
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    Post by urbanslegend05 Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:30 am

    I'll play dink for a fourth
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:31 am

    can you give it to me if its possible if not give it to someone who is a lone conf or if thats not possible then give it to dink
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    Post by jhawk886 Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:37 am

    yungjswag89 wrote:can you give it to me if its possible if not give it to someone who is a lone conf or if thats not possible then give it to dink
    Aight, I'll give you the 4th user game man.
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    Post by TheWeatherMan Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:40 am

    Wouldn't UCF vs USF kinda make more sense?

    Hey, Hawk, seriously thanks for doing these for us, you are the man.
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    Post by urbanslegend05 Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:41 am

    I agree, UCF vs. USF!!! Make it happen.

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