Grinders Discussion Thread

Saints affected by salary cap problem

Jalen_d wrote:Saints affected by salary cap problem

Lmao, salary cap problem or salary cap glitch? Lol 2 different things lol. Fucked up contracts is not a salary cap glitch lol.

Drew...what are you talkin about man? I just texted him and he said you guys have been texting the past 2 days. Said he tried to play last night but you went to bed early; just get it in before the other user games are done guys.

Hey drew just sent u a text bro can play anytime had to take the family to the airport and I'm free all day

Due to some confusion over the hurry up rules I have detailed them. Posted in the rules thread:

Hurry up in this game is not modeled well and so will be only allowed for regular use within two minutes of either half or when trailing by a lot (18+) in the second half(or 10+ in the 4th). If you run hurry up more than twice in a row or more than 5 times in a game when it is not permitted for regular use, you will be penalized.

lol Splff u know what I mean "I got the glitch"

So... we looking to advance after 5pm game? Looks like 2 of em scheduled and shock was no show for yung, so I take it after muck's game and yung cpu we headed to week 4?

Oh, did yall we picked up Ochocinco? Talk about some headlines in grinders. Media SB here we come.

Correct tj. Yung, when are you going to be able to get the game in?

By the way, SUPERSIM is NOT allowed to be used during CPU games to play one side of the ball. Supersim does not work correctly and so barely any time is ran off the clock when you sim it. When you supersim defense and play offense you end up with scores and stats like Joey's game this week. This is not acceptable and will not be tolerated. If you feel like CPU games are "boring" and just want to play offense, too damn bad. Play the game right or don't play it at all. If it's too boring for you to waste your time with it, just let it be simmed.

It's difficult to know for sure if supersim was used but in general it's obvious by looking at the number of plays ran. In Joey's game there were 126 plays (54 passes by Eli Manning) with the majority of the plays being with the Giants on offense.

As I said, this will not be tolerated, it gives unrealistic offensive stats since you have A LOT more opportunities.

I got bored again:

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/591355-evolution-ccm-progression.html#post2044435234

Any Games which do not have a specific SCHEDULED TIME posted in the scheduling thread by the scheduling deadline for the week will be SIMMED if they are not completed by the time all the other games are done.

Oh yeah, I guess the commish didn't think it was important, but we advanced earlier tonight. Something like 7 est, so that's who knows what is this cst thingy.

Lol yes, we advanced I'll have the deadline up scrolling later tonight.

Scheduling deadline: Saturday 1:00 PM CT

Advance deadline: Sunday 7:00 PM CT

For everyone that missed some really stupid shit.....


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@ Dolfinley
@ jhawk886
Marco_SNAPS_55
Shooter



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JoeyJ1203
@ splff3000

[01:14:16 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : still dont see wat i did wrong

[01:14:20 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : irb for real man chill out lol

[01:14:21 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : sorry i did the same thing ive always done

[01:14:26 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : AND NOW u guys got somethin to say

[01:14:35 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i'm pretty chill

[01:14:36 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : just weird to me it took a year and a half

[01:14:36 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : joey dont give a shit about picks anyway lol

[01:14:41 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : but that's just fucking retarded

[01:14:52 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : no way he should have to sit his two best players

[01:15:06 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : why not urb

[01:15:13 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : there's way worse shit that's happened

[01:15:19 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : what does the great commish urb suggest

[01:15:20 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : he scored all his points in the first half

[01:15:22 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : has stop sat nebody yet?

[01:15:33 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : has he got any penalties yet?

[01:15:38 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : have u done nethin to neone yet?

[01:15:40 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : cause none of urbs leagues never fold

[01:15:41 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i mean, was it excessive maybe? probably yes

[01:15:43 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : oh wait

[01:15:43 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : or does it just start wit me

[01:15:47 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : you're right urb, there has been, but that was before there was a specified rule against it

[01:15:59 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : but we didn't see this cpu game

[01:16:10 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : what if joey had 3 picks and got the ball at the 20 yard line

[01:16:21 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i did have 3 pics actually

[01:16:21 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : ws he supposed to just punt?

[01:16:23 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : and i took onne to the houe

[01:16:29 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : this is the first instance since we've had a rule against stat padding where there is blatant evidence of it, and joey even admitted to doing it

[01:16:31 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : ya thats exactly wat they want me to do

[01:16:32 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : kinda boring to play the game and run a dive for 28 straight plays

[01:16:33 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : run the ball

[01:16:39 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : joey after stop shit, hawk posted that the stat padding and shit like that wasny=t gonna be allowed

[01:16:55 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : u the first one since that post

[01:16:56 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i dont get it it was the 1st half, wat did u want me to do, waste time

[01:16:58 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i mean, sitting stafford and CJ is a joke

[01:17:05 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : yes joey lol

[01:17:11 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : waste mfing time

[01:17:15 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : you guys are getting ridiculous with some of this shit lately

[01:17:20 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : yes joey, we want you to run the ball once in a blue moon in the first half when you are annhilating the CPU

[01:17:25 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : lol kk sorry and enjoy the league boys

[01:17:33 16/11/12] Shooter : lol

[01:17:43 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : thats real mature joey lol

[01:17:56 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : the reason it is stafford and CJ is because they are the ones he padded with

[01:17:57 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : u gotta sit 2 players for one game

[01:18:01 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i don't blame joey at all

[01:18:04 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : but youd rather quit

[01:18:12 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : u lucky hawk is commish

[01:18:13 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : if it would've been Stafford and Blackmon then it would've been those two

[01:18:13 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : im not gonna sit out 2 players

[01:18:15 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : give him a warning

[01:18:18 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : do something else

[01:18:22 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : cause id day fuck ya

[01:18:32 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : thats fine

[01:18:35 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : u already said fuck me

[01:18:38 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : splff is an instigator if you guys haven't figured that out

[01:18:40 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : so im gone

[01:18:42 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : its not a big deal

[01:18:54 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : we wouldnt even need to talk no more cause youd be booted

[01:18:55 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : ill be fine, i live a good life

[01:19:01 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : so boot me

[01:19:01 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : you guys are fucking up on this one

[01:19:08 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : but hawk is a kinder gentler soul

[01:19:09 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : ur not gonna hurt ma feelings

[01:19:20 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : my thing is that I have an obvious conflict of interest in this case and so turned the judgement call over to splff

[01:19:34 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : turn the judgement over to the group

[01:19:39 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : last yr, u use to score 3 4 tds in the 4th qtr

[01:19:40 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : he decided it was padding and so that's the punishment

[01:19:44 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : when u were blowin teams out

[01:19:46 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : how many times do i have to say, start getting a group decision

[01:19:50 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : splff didnt say a word like a bitch that he is

[01:19:52 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : urb its the group that brought it up

[01:20:05 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : and now for u to turn into this crzy hippocrat is just funny to me

[01:20:05 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : normally I would decide and splff would be the appellate court

[01:20:11 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : the group brought it up, but nobody said anything about benching cj and stafford against hawk

[01:20:13 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : especially when i did it in the 1st half

[01:20:14 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : lol

[01:20:17 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : just crzy

[01:20:18 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : but its ok

[01:20:20 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : make him bench them in a cpu game if anything

[01:20:30 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : but not against fucking hawk

[01:20:33 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : lmao urb

[01:20:39 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : stfu

[01:20:39 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : urb please stop wastin ur breath

[01:20:40 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : its done

[01:20:41 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : I suppose if joey wants I could suspend his punishment for a league vote (the appellate court in this case) to decide

[01:21:00 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : please everyone stop wasting ur breath, yall made up ur mind its cool

[01:21:07 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : fuck it hawk

[01:21:07 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : you guys are killing me lately

[01:21:10 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : but it doesnt matter one way or the other what the group decides if joey refuses to refrain from stat padding in the first half against CPU teams in the future

[01:21:11 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : marco bitches

[01:21:20 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : which he said he's not going to change from doing

[01:21:22 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : we can't run hurry up more than two plays in a row

[01:21:33 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : cause even if the league vote yes he still gonna whine like a bitch and quit

[01:21:48 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : so at the moment, I see no reason to even go through all of that rigamarole

[01:21:49 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : splff go fuck ur self u piece of shit

[01:21:58 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : so its just wasting mfers time

[01:22:02 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : dude, if he gets 3 picks and a pick 6 in the first half and has 3 bad ass receivers and is good, he's gonna score

[01:22:03 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i fucking stay on top of ma shit in this bitch,and im the last person to cheeze in neways possible

[01:22:08 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : if he wanna quit let him quit

[01:22:11 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : nobody is going to take their foot off the gas in the first half

[01:22:13 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : for u to even come at me like that is ridiculous

[01:22:21 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : .

[01:22:21 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : ur just bein a ignorant fool neways

[01:22:22 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : what are we still talking about this for

[01:22:26 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : white and bitch, ur right thats me, im done

[01:23:02 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i mean, why not bench his guys against the cpu

[01:23:03 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : whine*

[01:23:07 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : it happened against the cpu

[01:23:12 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : make the punshiment in a cpu game

[01:23:24 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : don't enforce it in a game against the super bowl champ

[01:23:38 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Joey deserves another chance no punishment

[01:23:40 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : jesus fucking christ, this is one stupid fucking decision

[01:23:44 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : urb u really are retarded

[01:23:46 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : if he had a pick 6 in the first half then why didnt he take out stafford and CJ in the 2nd half?

[01:23:52 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : oh look, marco says he deserves another chance

[01:23:55 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : through at least 1 TD with stafford in the 2nd half

[01:24:04 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : threw*

[01:24:12 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : why don't we let marco be the judge

[01:24:18 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Shooter did it stop did it

[01:24:25 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : see hawk, this is why i used to get mad at splff

[01:24:32 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i threw a curl route wit 7:16 left, he broke for a td

[01:24:32 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : bc he'd use only his opinion

[01:24:33 16/11/12] Shooter : what marco?

[01:24:35 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : u want me to dive?

[01:24:36 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : lmao

[01:24:38 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : you gotta get more of the group

[01:24:40 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Shit shooter is up big!!! N goes for it on fourth down still????

[01:24:52 16/11/12] Shooter : That was a user game marco lol

[01:24:58 16/11/12] Shooter : and show me a rule where it says I can't.

[01:25:00 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : we're getting tooooooo fucking picky sometimes

[01:25:03 16/11/12] Shooter : Mfer always trying to bring me into shit

[01:25:04 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : it's a video game

[01:25:06 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : N nothing is done? Like come on people make mistakes

[01:25:06 16/11/12] Shooter : keep me out your life lol

[01:25:11 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : look at the stat leaders

[01:25:21 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : there's other guys that have similar stats to CJ

[01:25:32 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : look at the chargers guy

[01:25:38 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Shooter ur up big y da fuck u Gona go for it on fourth u really that cheap?

[01:25:49 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : it's pretty obvious he's forcing it to Antonio Gates

[01:25:52 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : nobody is mentioning him

[01:25:58 16/11/12] Shooter : Why are you worried about what I do lol

[01:26:11 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : My game with chargers every play is a streak.

[01:26:13 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : he's giving an example shooter

[01:26:23 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Just making a point shooter calm down

[01:26:32 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : lol urb he aint played the cpu

[01:26:32 16/11/12] Shooter : I am calm lmao

[01:26:41 16/11/12] Shooter : it was a shitty example that was not even close to relevant.

[01:26:44 16/11/12] Shooter : But okay.

[01:26:50 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : he played users

[01:26:54 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : well it's even worse if he's only throwing it to gates against people

[01:27:00 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Yes it is. Just stay quiet shooter lol

[01:27:06 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : please guys just stop its ok urb

[01:27:07 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : no point

[01:27:10 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : users have the mental capacity to adjust to things

[01:27:16 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : the cpu doesnt

[01:27:33 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Yea Urb he did it the whole game I didn't say nothing cause I know u guys were Gona laugh at me lol

[01:27:41 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : and 5/90 0 TDs isn't exactly close to CJ's numbers

[01:27:41 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : actually thats why he lost twice urb

[01:28:03 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : yeah, let's just lose a good user over a game that we didn't see

[01:28:05 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : CAUSE USERS ADJUSTED T HIM

[01:28:08 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : urb did what?

[01:28:18 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : but regardless like I said, I'm willing to let joey appeal it to the group for a vote

[01:28:25 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i'm really curious as to what i did 'the whole game'

[01:28:33 16/11/12] Shooter : Splff, hawk lol don't waste your energy guys.. Some people just don't get it.

[01:28:47 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : but he needs to be willing to run the ball more when he is up huge in the first half

[01:28:53 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : which so far he has refused to do

[01:29:07 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : SO URB YOUR ANSWER IS TO LET JOEY DO WHATEVER HE WANT?

[01:29:11 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : he's had one cpu game

[01:29:31 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : no, my answer is, he didn't score but 7-14 points in the second half

[01:29:35 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : CAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT ANYTIME YOU TRY TO PUNISH HIM HE GONNA SAY HE QUITTING

[01:29:38 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : it's obvious he took his foot off the gas

[01:29:38 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Shooter stop kissing up u did the same shit with the stats n nothing happened

[01:29:43 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Same with stop

[01:29:57 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : I agree, it's obvious he took his foot off the gas in the 2nd half

[01:29:57 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Now cause Joey does it once now all hell breaks loose?

[01:30:02 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : Marco listen man

[01:30:04 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : that isn't disputed

[01:30:07 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : just like you guys think it's obvious that he stat padded

[01:30:14 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : cj only had like 8 catches that game

[01:30:17 16/11/12] Shooter : Marco you have the mental capacity of a 5 year old it seems..

[01:30:19 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : wasn't like he had 19

[01:30:21 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : or 15

[01:30:25 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : or 13

[01:30:35 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : hawk made a post and said the shit wont be tolerated anymore after sto did it

[01:30:41 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : but he himself admitted he intentionally ran up the score and got as many stats as he could in the 1st half because he knew he'd have to slow it down in the 2nd half

[01:30:53 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : wtf

[01:30:54 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : relax

[01:30:57 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : hawk, i have news for you

[01:30:59 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : dont put words in my mouth

[01:31:04 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i told u i try to score

[01:31:06 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i'm going to score as many as i can in any first half i play too

[01:31:08 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : had nothin to do wit stats

[01:31:15 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : lmao joey u said that shit lol

[01:31:16 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i threw tds to 4 dif fucking wrs

[01:31:17 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : it's dumb if you try to quit scoring before half

[01:31:23 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i didnt just say here calvin

[01:31:25 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Sorry Joey I tried

[01:31:26 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : here is 8 fucking tds to u

[01:31:31 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i played my offense

[01:31:32 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : you never know what's going to happen

[01:31:38 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : you playing the fucking cpu urb

[01:31:39 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : whoever scores, scores

[01:31:45 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : then you were talkin to shooter and it was obvious you wanted CJ to get multiple TDs and the majority of your TDs

[01:31:47 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : no need to score 100 on them

[01:31:52 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : he didn't

[01:31:59 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : he scored 49

[01:32:01 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : you just spread it around a bit to get others XP and make it look better

[01:32:05 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : no i told shooter that i aint him, when i throw tds they dont all go to calvin

[01:32:08 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : added two scores in the second half

[01:32:13 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i told him when he throws 4 tds, 3 or 4 go to green

[01:32:24 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : you said he throws 75% to AJ, you go 50% to CJ

[01:32:32 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : u think i was thinken about hawk or splff when i was playin

[01:32:41 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i score, ive always scored, this is nothing new, i dont kno y its new now

[01:32:44 16/11/12] Shooter : Lol please show me a game where that happened against the CPU recently.

[01:32:49 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : calvin is his best receiver

[01:32:49 16/11/12] Shooter : Oh never mind it hasn't

[01:32:58 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : is he not supposed to throw to him but 20 percent

[01:33:00 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : shooter please explain to him wat i was tellin u

[01:33:10 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : fuck this conversation

[01:33:11 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : 90 percent of your runs go to charles

[01:33:17 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : what's not to say you're not stat padding him

[01:33:23 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : urb is retarded

[01:33:25 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : hell, you're even running for like 8-9 yards a pop

[01:33:28 16/11/12] dominoslarry : splff on a different not videos up

[01:33:32 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : so i'm sure you're running some money runs

[01:33:32 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : joey quit or stfu

[01:33:34 16/11/12] dominoslarry : note

[01:33:50 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : lets talk about something else

[01:33:54 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : splff stfu

[01:33:56 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : but if you run it and run up rushing yards, that's not stat padding?

[01:33:58 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : no 1 is speakin to u

[01:34:00 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Ima stay out of this lol

[01:34:11 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : no offense hawk, but that's just putting the shoe on the other foot

[01:34:34 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : urb you really really are retarded

[01:34:38 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : actually, under 75% of my carries go to Charles

[01:34:41 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : bc i've seen cpu games with charles with 200 rushing yards

[01:34:43 16/11/12] Shooter : Hawk rushes the ball like 30+ times usually with numerous people Chuck lol

[01:34:48 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : but whatever

[01:34:53 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : like 10 yards per carry

[01:35:09 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : rb carries and wr receptions can not be compared in any way lol

[01:35:34 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : shooter, if you think kissing ass is going to help you when you do the same shit joey's doing, you're fooling yourself

[01:35:47 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : why splff? they're both football plays

[01:35:51 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : they're both accumulating stats

[01:35:57 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : they're both gaining XP

[01:35:59 16/11/12] Shooter : Not kissing ass lmao

[01:36:03 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : so if i ran for 400 yards and 8tds, iwould get no complaints?

[01:36:06 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : I dont understand why westill talking about this

[01:36:23 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : how do you not understand why we're still talking about this

[01:36:35 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : you guys are running off a valuable member over some dumb shit

[01:36:36 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : im gonna go look at some vids lol

[01:36:37 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : because hes being a fucking cock sucker thats y

[01:36:41 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : based off of what one guy said

[01:36:42 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : and it really surprises me honestly

[01:36:50 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : but now i kno wat it is, so its cool

[01:36:59 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : no urb hes quitting over some dumb shit

[01:37:02 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : and the ruling is completely retarded

[01:37:12 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : we didnt run anyone off

[01:37:15 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : dumb sht? u benching my 2 best players for something ive done since madden 12

[01:37:17 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : how is the ruling retarded?

[01:37:17 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : he's quitting bc you guys want to take away his two best players in a crucial game

[01:37:19 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : and now its dumb?

[01:37:20 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i'd do the same shit

[01:37:27 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : I said he can appeal it for a league vote

[01:37:32 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : you guys want me to sit bush and nelson or bush and tannehill....see ya

[01:37:32 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : wtf is retarded about that

[01:37:37 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : isn't that what you fucking want?

[01:37:55 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : it dont matter tho hawk cause he said he aint changing

[01:38:00 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : hawk... thank u for the chance i really think im done

[01:38:13 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : cause i just cant get over the fact splff was commish and never said a word

[01:38:18 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : now hes just a bitch

[01:38:23 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : and now he wants me to sit players down

[01:38:26 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : see this mfer want u to beg him to stay

[01:38:35 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : and i cant get th fact that ive seen u in multiple games score when u were blwoin a team out

[01:38:38 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : coem at me the the way u r

[01:38:46 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : i say fuck it

[01:38:47 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : naw mfer i dnt need nobody to fucking beg me

[01:38:50 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : u really got me fucked up

[01:38:53 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : no, i don't think he wants to beg

[01:39:01 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i think he we wants a little equlity

[01:39:02 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : like i said, i got a real life, this game is for fun, but fuck u

[01:39:05 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : equality

[01:39:10 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : ur a piece of shit

[01:39:22 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : lol so why u quitting

[01:39:28 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : the thing is now joey that stat padding is more than just a feel good thing trying to improve numbers or make a pro bowl or some shit

[01:39:31 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : cause ur a bitch

[01:39:35 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : it actually has an in-game impact

[01:39:46 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : the ENTIRE progression system is built around it

[01:39:57 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : if you guys don't think stats had anything to do with how much guys went up last year, you're lying

[01:40:00 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : joey u of all people should know calling me names over the internet does absolutely nothing to me lol

[01:40:09 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : or else you wouldn't have tried to score last year

[01:40:12 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : u just wasting ur time with that lol

[01:40:16 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : its ok, makin me feel better so ill keep callin u a bitch

[01:40:19 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : cause in my eyes now u r a bitch

[01:40:23 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : its not wastin time

[01:40:25 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : im enjoyin it

[01:40:25 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : the progression system just gives us control over how they went up

[01:40:32 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Idk how manning got 30k for this game n yet he threw 4 ints

[01:40:33 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : now when i c splff im gonna remember bitch

[01:40:35 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : no mmroe tobey

[01:40:40 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : or the Whip

[01:40:42 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : ima remember bitch

[01:40:43 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : the whole normal, quick, superstar is just c, b, and A from last year on potential

[01:40:56 16/11/12] Shooter : Marco, he probably hit a milestone

[01:41:07 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Nope

[01:41:22 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Checked already

[01:41:31 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : naw, it's totally revamped urb, didnt you read splff's massive OS rant about it?

[01:41:31 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : lol

[01:41:37 16/11/12] Shooter : You went through the whole damn list? lol that's a lot of searching

[01:41:42 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : but regardless, I feel bad for joey

[01:41:46 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Splff always rants lmao

[01:41:49 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : because I figured this would happen

[01:41:56 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : nah, i got better things to do than rant on OS or read rants on OS

[01:42:09 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : dont feel sorry for me, its all good like i said

[01:42:19 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i appreciate bein in this league, and it was fun, and all u mfers cool as hell

[01:42:20 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : with somebody, somebody would be the first one to stat pad after the rule was made and would get pissed and probably quit

[01:42:21 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : everybody thinks they know everything about madden

[01:42:23 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : but it is wat it is

[01:42:34 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : just like we all think we know joey stat padded

[01:42:40 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : but there's no damn way to prove it

[01:42:47 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : it's based off one person's judgement

[01:42:53 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i cant agree to stad padding when i did wat i always do

[01:42:56 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : true

[01:43:00 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : it's a judgement call

[01:43:00 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i don't see why yall don't just play the damn game

[01:43:00 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : thats the thing

[01:43:06 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : and thats y i will never agee wit wat u guys are sayin

[01:43:09 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : ive always done this

[01:43:14 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : there's 4 damn cpu teams in the league

[01:43:18 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : that's why when (normally) I make the call, I allow an appeal to splff

[01:43:23 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : Welcome to the next level of grinders commisioner hawk

[01:43:27 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : seems to be ur mistakes for taking this long to say somthin

[01:43:28 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : if he gets a measily 5,000 extra XP, so fucking what

[01:43:33 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : and since splff made the call this time, I'll allow an appeal to the league at large

[01:43:35 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : you are now a dick'

[01:43:40 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : good job lol

[01:43:40 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : calvin went up a whol point on catch in traffic....big fucking whoop

[01:44:32 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : hawk, here's an idea...have a committee

[01:44:33 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : going to watch vids

[01:44:40 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : quit putting the power in one or two people's hands

[01:44:45 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : it's not the one game that's the point, it's following the rules

[01:44:50 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : hawk you and joey play yall shit

[01:44:50 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : make it like the trade committee

[01:44:52 16/11/12] @ splff3000 : im out

[01:45:08 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : we can't have one guy playing outside of the rules because we don't want to lose him while everybody else plays within a certain set of rules

[01:45:30 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i want you guys to prove to me how he broke the rules

[01:45:34 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i always play by the rules

[01:45:34 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : not just speculate

[01:45:37 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i want proof

[01:45:43 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : maybe its splffs fault for neevr enforcing them

[01:45:53 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : did u ever think in ur mind i really feel llike im not paddin the stats

[01:45:54 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : like I said, stat padding is ALWAYS a judgement call because we can't prove anything

[01:45:56 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : even though u think i am

[01:46:05 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : exactly

[01:46:17 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : y would i feel they are padding stats if i always do it

[01:46:23 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : do u c 20 catches wit someone

[01:46:25 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : oh i think this guy may have killed him

[01:46:29 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : let's give him the chair

[01:46:30 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : do u see someone wit 8 out of 8tds

[01:46:36 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : that was why I was iffy on how to implement a system to prevent/punish it when the stop shit happened

[01:46:43 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : if u think i need xp, dnt u think i would throw all my tds to blacmon or harvin?

[01:46:50 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : if he's scoring 21 points in the fourth quarter, up 20 points....enforce something

[01:46:50 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : but EVERYONE wanted one

[01:46:56 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : he's scoring in the second quarter

[01:47:09 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : so I instituted one, and now we all have to play by it

[01:47:16 16/11/12] Shooter : Voting is kind of pointless... It's just a popularity thing then

[01:47:18 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : if it was 28 points in the 2nd quarter, would we be punishing him?"

[01:47:21 16/11/12] Shooter : which is pretty dumb and meaningless

[01:47:25 16/11/12] Shooter : doesn't prove anything...

[01:47:41 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : naw, I don't think so shooter

[01:47:44 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : i dont need xp points for a 99 ovr wr

[01:47:46 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : better than one guy saying it definitely is

[01:47:51 16/11/12] JoeyJ1203 : just sayin

[01:48:02 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : I think most guys will legitamately vote whether they think he stat padded or not

[01:48:19 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : it wont be "well I don't like joey so I'm going to say yes", or vice versa

[01:48:19 16/11/12] Shooter : Well if it was me getting voted on, I know at least half the league would vote to give me the penalty lol

[01:48:22 16/11/12] Shooter : no matter what i did

[01:48:37 16/11/12] Shooter : so yes, it's a popularity thing

[01:48:40 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : lol, why do you think taht

[01:49:00 16/11/12] Shooter : Because half of the league is faggots.

[01:49:04 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : man, sometimes you guys take this shit way too seriously

[01:49:09 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : thinking everybody hates everybody

[01:49:15 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : shit is supposed to be FUN

[01:49:29 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : you guys think when i call joker or clark a fucking faggot that i mean that hsit?

[01:49:32 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : shit*

[01:49:34 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : I honestly really like everybody in here

[01:49:34 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : no

[01:49:38 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i'm having fun

[01:49:45 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : even most of the guys who are former members

[01:49:45 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : quit taking this shit so seriously

[01:49:59 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : let joey slide this one time

[01:50:03 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : I know a lot of guys probably don't like me

[01:50:04 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : play the fucking game

[01:50:15 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : and even more probably think I'm a horrible commissioner

[01:50:17 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : if he does that shit again and it looks quite that bad

[01:50:24 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i wont say a word

[01:50:25 16/11/12] Shooter : I didn't say I didn't like anyone lol. I just said a lot of guys are faggots.

[01:50:33 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : but I try to do the best I can to be fair and unbaised

[01:51:24 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i been around this bitch longer than anyone with the exception of the guys that have been playing since the beginnign with us

[01:51:29 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i've seen far worse

[01:51:34 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : like I said, I'm willing to suspend any punishment until a league vote is held as an appeal to determine what should be done

[01:51:50 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : fuck a league vote

[01:51:52 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : Stop's padding was 100X worse

[01:51:59 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : but we didnt have a rule

[01:52:01 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : you got 3 people saying it doesn't look taht way

[01:52:06 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : myself, joey, marco

[01:52:16 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : you got 3 people saying it looks that way

[01:52:19 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : joey, myself, and splff don't count

[01:52:21 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : yourself, splff, shooter

[01:52:25 16/11/12] Marco_SNAPS_55 : Yup

[01:52:34 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : ok, then it's 2-1

[01:52:38 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : in joey's favor

[01:53:22 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : yeah, but we have to hold a vote, I can't overrule splff's decision on a 3 vote basis with just the people in the chatbox when shit got talked about

[01:53:32 16/11/12] Shooter : Shock was the one that brought it up to me

[01:53:39 16/11/12] Shooter : and someone else was saying something about it.

[01:53:42 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : like I said joey and I can play, with all his guys

[01:54:01 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : and if he gets voted to be punished by the league as a whole

[01:54:08 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : well he can always quit then if he so desires

[01:54:36 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : you were willing to punish him based only on splff though

[01:54:54 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : but my biggest concern, is that he says he isn't going to play any differently in CPU games in the future

[01:55:17 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : I was because that is the rule

[01:55:23 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : maybe the rule can be changed

[01:55:32 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : but for the time being that's what it is

[01:55:40 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : i'm going to bed

[01:55:51 16/11/12] @ jhawk886 : and to overturn his decision, we are going to need a leaguewide vote in joey's favor

[01:55:53 16/11/12] @ Dolfinley : mark this down as the first time i'm telling you that you're really fucking up

Thank you urb; and please vote guys.

https://ncaa.forumotion.com/t1062-joey-and-stat-padding#45890

Urb you are so retarded lol. That is the longest shit ever lol. All you doing is just showing the whole league how retarded you are lol. They can read it and see for themselves lol.

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